It's taken me a week to read and have a think about the referendum and whether the UK is better in or out!
Conclusion - we are better off out of the EU and it will be better for our children. Countries that want us to stay is for their own benefit and not ours.
So let me make the points below and then it's up to other people to make their own judgement.
1. It has perturbed me why Cameron and Osborne are trying to scaremonger us to stay in the EU
2. There are no facts given, just threats.
3. All I hear from Cameron is - If we don't stay in we will have to do a lot of work to keep out economy going. I also hear, - We don't know what to expect, but I prefer not to have an unknown.
4. From my own perspective, if we stay in, it's the same, because the EU will just suck us up, take our money and spit us out.
5. Armed forces - Germany's constitution says it can't send troops on to fight. It states that it can support from a second line! What good is that if you are being attacked. France gives up, Italy runs and the other countries are just too small or can fight like Guerillas. The UK has cut it's forces so much we all know, that if the Argentines went into the Falklands, we will have to give up and Cameron will have lied about the state of our armed forces.
6. MEP get 150,000 basic salary. They also get expenses for their staff, who can be relatives
( Kinnock had his wife, son and daughter in law), plus as we have seen this week they also get 120,000 pounds for general expenses which they don't need receipts. so a total of 350,000-400,000 pounds a year is achievable.
7. Security - Cameron has said we shouldn't pull out because of European security. This is ridiculous. Recently the German police stopped a terrorist on the border with arms going to France, but they omitted to tell the French! There is no collaboration going on, but the UK does share it's intelligence.
Recently, the Germans complained to the USA that they had tapped Angela Merkel's phone and said you don't do that to friends! However, this week it has been revealed that the Germans did the same to Joh Kerry. SO the whole security angle is mixed with lies and deceit.
8. UK Control - In order for us to get control back from the EU for our borders, our law, finances etc we need to leave. Laws are being brought in by people who we have not voted for, Never heard of and we can't sack. This is NOT democracy!! A law in the EU states that in the UK we cannot lower energy bills, because the EU is in the hands of the corporate world and the bankers. Demands on UK Business is vast and wastes time and money. Cameron and Osborne have tried to cut the 'red tape' but for some reason they won't do it. This means that competitiveness is controlled by company and by country.
9. Tony Benn said - (a) what power have you got? (b) where did you get the power? (c) In whose interest do you use the power? (d) To whom are you accountable? (e) How can we get rid of you?
In the EU, no one is accountable, No one can be sacked, nothing is transparent.
10. If we stay in the EU it's because we have fear of the unknown and the fear of if we can stand on our own 2 feet. The UK has always done this and I don't see why it would change
11. Employment - Corporates like uncontrolled EU immigration, as it keeps cheap labour. The original law was for free movement ONCE you had a job, not because you wanted to emigrate!!
12. Immigration - EU makes it more difficult or nearly impossible for the UK to deport up to 7000 criminals we are reported to have in the UK from abroad. Whether it's organised crime, murderers, rapists they all claim rule 8 of the Human Rights Act. It's like the Muslim Hamza- 'Hook' it cost us 10 million pounds because we couldn't extradite him. However, if we did, the EU would have fined us 2,000 pounds! The UK wants to stick with the law.
Also, as an act of humanity, we have taken a few thousand refugees from Syria, which is good. However, what the EU doesn't look at are the exponential population growth. The average Muslim family will have 5 children. If the UK takes in 50,000, then each generation of these numbers, increase our population by 250,000 times 5 for each child every 20 years= 1.25 million.
Why is it that in Calais it's mainly men waiting to come to thenUK. Most are unskilled and many commit crime. Do we need them!!! The 16 year old on the TV was correct. Cancel the UK immigration for a points system then the unskilled worker from EU and the top doctor from India are on a level pegging. The UK population is expected to grow to 80 million which is 23% growth from current levels. We don't have the housing, schooling, infrastructure, NHS to support this.
Think about the organisations that will or are coming in; Bulgaria (racketeering, Financial theft, car, Prostitution ), Turkish (people, prostitution, drugs, arms) Syria (people), Albania (Drugs, arms, people, human organs), Romanian (Drugs, Forgery, robberies, pickpocketing)
13. Exports - currently the EU sell 59 bln pounds more goods to the UK than we sell to the EU. Where is the benefit of this? Why did Cameron mention the Whisky exports, will EU stop buying whisky if we pull out? Very much doubt it. In fact if Scotland stay in the EU then it won't change at all!
14. Cameron's goals for his negotiations -
Basically he failed miserably.
Welfare - He got the concession to stop benefits to immigrants from the EU. However, he can't do this for at least a year and in this time the EU can force the UK to take as many as they want. The UK can only do this for period of 7 years, then they have no recourse.
Child Benefit - He failed for the UK to stop child benefit being paid to their families in their own country and just got a inflation cap. Also it won't come into effect until 2020 and by then there will be millions for being paid.
Economic Governance - The UK can delay not stop, 19 countries having changes made to their markets and also taxation, but there has to be 28 countries who agree with the UK. This will never happen. So EU can ask order us to ay more taxes and it's likely we can't stop it.
Closer Union - His only win. So the UK can have a special membership level.
15. BREXIT - It will take the UK 2 years to pull out and in the mean time we have to pay everything as per current situation.
16. Can the EU reform - NO it can't and they don't have the will to do so. It is a typical conglomerate like Woolworths, FIFA or the FA, old decrepit and archaic, run by the old boy network.
It spends money, buys and builds new buildings and it's all for show and power.
17. Finance - France and Germany have wanted the UK financial centre for years. Germany;s stock exchange has just taken over the UK Stock Exchange, so they are there, but the French want their piece of action and it will come, as part of a bilateral agreement with Germany. The French also want the UK to charge a tax for all financial trades and this includes an individuals life insurance, medical insurance, pension etc. The EU has said that the UK will NOT be bailing out any bank in the EU. This is a blatant lie. We did with the Greek banks. There is also a little know fund we have to contribute to and recently we were told we had to increase our contribution by 4 bln pounds. Also we have to back the IMF with cash and this is lent to banks in Greece, so this is totally false.
18. The UK fund the EU by 11 bln pounds a year which is due to increase. Bearing mind what France gets out of the EU why do we as a smaller country pay so much. The same for Holland and Denmark.
19. The EU is totally run by the Germans and French. It was thy that established the EU back in the early 1900's and then eventually when the UK joined in 1973.
20. According to Cameron- if we stay in it's damned if we do and damned if we don't!
21. USA - Want the UK to stay in the EU because we are their puppets, we are their ears and eyes of Europe
22. The UK went into the EU in 1973 because we were in a mess economically and politically after a bad Labour government, although it was Edward Heath of the Conservatives who did the signing. He did say at the time that it wouldn't be good, he didn't have a choice.
